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> Minutes of AILA-CGFNS Liaison Meeting (4/14/06)
MINUTES OF APRIL 14, 2006 AILA/CGFNS LIAISON MEETING
Persons in attendance: AILA: Frank Novak, Sherry Neal, Matthew Dunn,
Mercedes Badia-Tavas, Bob Deasy, Joanna Hedvall; CGFNS: Donna
Richardson, Sylvia Pompony
1. Are there any new CGFNS initiatives of which CGFNS would like the
AILA membership to be aware?
CGFNS raised prices as of May 1, 2006, as noted on the website. The
prices are being raised for all of the programs except for the New
York Credential Verifications Service, on because of the increased
costs of doing business. Anyone who was in process before then is
covered by the current fee scale.
CGFNS is in the process of extending the electronic transmission
system that it uses with the CES programs to other CGFNS programs.
Under the CES transmission system, credentials evaluation reports go
directly to the state board of nursing electronically. The report
stays on-line for a year. The applicant receives a hard copy. It
allows the state board of nursing to go in and look at a monthly
report with regard to the applications and their status. This system
may be in place for other programs by this summer. The two first
programs will probably be the NY CVS and CGFNS certificate and
VisaScreen verifications. (Note CGFNS certificate verification is
already provided to NYS as part of the CVS program, unless the nurse
does not yet have the CGFNS certificate, and then CGFNS will send it
as an addendum to the CVS report once it is received.
CGFNS will begin charging for verification of CGFNS certificates.
2. If a case seems to be taking too long for CGFNS to process
whether it is the VisaScreen, the certification program, or some
other program, how can an applicant resolve the matter? Is there an
ombudsman position or something similar at CGFNS? How long is too
long? What are the internal timeline performance metrics for
processing a case? If a case is designated as ready for review, how
long should it be before it is reviewed? If a CVS case is designated
as ready for submission, how long should it be before the report is
issued?
CGNFS has an Ombudsman unit. The Ombudsman unit handles cases with
numerous problems, not status inquiries. It receives complaints from
the public and responds within twenty-four hours by e-mail or phone.
A person cannot call and speak to an Ombudsman directly. There is a
triage system set up for the Ombudsman based upon the program and
also based upon the nature of the complaint.
Separate from the Ombudsman, if a person calls with an unresolved
issue that has been previously raised by the person, the issue will
be bumped up to a back-up person, which is a credentialer or a
manager. If a person has called and they believe that the
information that they have been given is wrong, then they are asked
to document that information.
All documents are now scanned. The entry and scanning process can
take up to fourteen days - depending upon the volume of the mail
that has come in. Once those documents are scanned, then they are
available for staff to see on-line. VisaScreen and Certification
Program files are normally reviewed within four to six weeks of the
document receipt.
"Ready for review" does not necessarily mean that the documents will
be approved and accepted.
The Credentials Evaluation Service is a much more detailed process
and it may take eight weeks to do the review of those documents and
to get the correspondence out.
CGFNS encourages people to inform CGFNS of deadlines; specifically,
deadlines for Visa appointments; deadlines for their VISA exit; and
deadlines if they have applications for licensure in states where
they only have a year or two years before their application is
considered abandoned. In those cases, CGFNS can pull their
application out of queue and expedite them so that they can meet
their deadline.
Under the NY Credentials Verification Service, a case should not
register as "ready for submission" for more than a couple weeks. The
NY CVS "ready for review" time-line should be about four to six
weeks.
If an applicant has a complaint that applicant can send a letter to
the Director of AQA (Advocacy and Quality Assurance) and that is
Brittany Zaehringer.
3. Is CGFNS aware of any plans to amend the language exam score
standards, add additional language exams as meeting VisaScreen
requirements, or amend the format of any language exams. With
respect to the last possibility, the TSE is difficult, so that even
those that communicate fully in English seem to fail.
CGFNS worked with HHS to adopt the IELTS given the reported
scheduling and scoring TSE difficulties. There is a rumor that IELTS
is not going to be accepted anymore, but there is no truth to that
rumor. There is also the rumor that Indian nurses cannot take the
IELTS. That also is not true. The Department of Health and Human
Services is in the process of studying and recommending the scores
for the IBT exams.
4. Why does the CGFNS Qualifying Exam score become invalid when the
English exam scores are two or more years old? It is our
understanding that holding English scores that are two years old
invalidates both the English score and the CGFNS exam score. What is
the rational for invalidating the CGFNS exam scores? Are there any
other circumstances under which the CGFNS exam score expires?
The English testing community has established the two-year validity
rule for the English test. CGFNS has followed that rule for the last
twenty-five years. CGFNS set the two-year rule with regard to the
CGFNS exam to ensure that nursing knowledge would be current. So if
the CGFNS exam scores are more than two years old and an applicant
now submits English scores, those English scores would not be valid
for the purposes of issuing the CGFNS certificate. The English
scores would be good for another two years. The ability to pass the
NCLEX exam is higher when the CGFNS exam is taken in close proximity
of the NCLEX examination. The purpose of the CGFNS exam is to
predict how the nurse will do on the NCLEX examination.
The exam dates and not the dates the exams are graded control the
date of expiration. If you were to take the CGFNS exam on March 4,
2004 and then were to take a language exam on March 3, 2006, and if
you were to pass, irrespective of when the exam was graded, you
would still get your certificate.
5. Does the VisaScreen, CGFNS certification or any other CGFNS
program require that initial licensure be in the country of first
level, professional education?
CGFNS requires that the initial licensure be in the country of
professional education for the CGFNS certification program. Only one
license in that instance is required and that is the licensure from
the country of education. If, however, the country does not issue a
license or registration, then CGFNS recognizes that there is no such
procedure. In those instances where a person cannot take the
licensing exam because of a citizenship requirement, e.g., Chinese
nurses who graduated from Philippine schools are not allowed to take
the licensing exam, CGFNS waives that requirement. Assumption
University in Thailand is considered an international university and
teaches in English. However the licensing exam is only given in
Thai. Therefore non-Thai graduates cannot take the exam so the
validation of licensure is waived for them. The license would also
be waived if the person had to leave the country before they could
take the licensing exam.
The certification program exists to demonstrate baseline competency
and comparability of education. And thus this policy is required as
a test of competency since the nurse is thus required to demonstrate
competency by obtaining licensure in the country of education.
Many U.S. states have the same rule. New York does not require it
for registered nurses, but it does for LPNs. If an RN educated in
the Phillipines obtained initial licensure in NY, CGFNS would review
the matter on a case-by-base basis. CGFNS would, e.g., consider if
that person couldn't take the licensing exam because he or she was
not a Philippine citizen or if he or she had to leave the country
for some reason and was unable to take the licensing exam.
For the purposes of the VisaScreen, if the applicant was not
licensed in their country of education, then it is not required
because the VisaScreen regulations say "all licenses ever held, past
or present". So if an applicant never held a license, CGFNS does not
hold them to producing one.
6. Have the standards for issuing VisaScreens or CGFNS
certifications changed in the last year. For example, CGFNS
previously stated that a 212(r) certificate required licensure by
exam, but that is no longer the case. Have there been any other
changes in eligibility standards?
An RN is eligible for 212(r) if licensed by exam in any state and
then endorsed into one of the five covered states, or if the nurse
is licensed by exam in one of the five covered states. Licensure in
one of the five states must be current. The rationale for the change
is that the state endorsement processes are as stringent as
licensure by exam.
Another change has been to add Barbados and Jamaica to the English
exemption list.
7. Will CGFNS issue a VisaScreen to a PT who does not have a PT
license but who shows eligibility to take the PT Board examination
based on the new requirements found in the eligibility criteria for
Schedule A Physical Therapists in 20§CFR656.5(a)(1) (considering PTs
are only required to be eligible to take the board exam)?
CGFNS does not require a VisaScreen applicant for physical therapy
to hold a license in their country. But if he or she was ever
licensed, CGFNS must receive a validation of that license.
8. Under what conditions would a licensed vocational nurse be exempt
from the English testing requirements when he or she is educated in
the US? More broadly, can CGFNS please clarify when the English
language proficiency testing is required for VisaScreen applicants
who have received their allied healthcare degree from within the
United States.
An LVN educated in the U.S would not be required to take the English
exams because, if they have graduated from an approved school of
nursing in the U.S., they are not held to that requirement. The
regulations also provide a streamlined process for graduates of U.S.
approved schools in nursing, physical therapy, occupational therapy,
speech pathology, and audiology. These persons are not required to
take the English proficiency exams and they only need to have their
graduation from an approved U.S. school verified. CGFNS does not
review their transcript for comparability.
9. What is the policy for waiving document requirements from
less-than-cooperative foreign governments? If this is considered on
a case-by-case situation, please outline what type of
evidence/efforts you will consider concerning efforts to obtain
documents (e.g. numerous attempts in writing or by telephone, Int'l
courier w/ a pre-paid return envelope, etc.). How should an attorney
go about making a formal request for a waiver of requirements?
CGFNS requires a showing of good faith by the applicant to obtain
the document from less than cooperative governments. CGFNS has a
database of over 500 thousand individuals and is familiar with the
countries where there are problems. CGFNS has a process for cases
where a document has been unobtainable. CGFNS asks the applicant for
proof of good faith efforts like copies of letters that they have
written. CGFNS will run a query to determine if it had any graduates
of programs from the same time frame as the applicant and then to
look at that information to help make a determination as to whether
or not their education was comparable. If the person is a refugee or
has asylum status then CGFNS asks for documentation of that. Special
accommodations have been made for applicants from Tsunami affected
countries and victims of Katrina where documents are just not
available. Where there are not any original documents, CGFNS will
accept copies and then those copies are reviewed against documents
that CGFNS would have on-hand.
However, it is also the case that in some countries where the
applicant has been requesting documents and they have not been
forthcoming, often times it is because there is a problem. The
applicant may not have finished government service, military
service, or there might be outstanding fees. The Philippine PRC will
not issue validations for anyone who has not renewed their licenses,
notwithstanding the fact that the person hasn't been in the
Philippines in ten years.
Eastern Europe has been difficult to get some documents. There have
been improvements in the Ukraine and India. CGFNS is still working
with Mexico to address the problems with getting documents out of
Mexico.
Applicants need to be realistic about time-lines in obtaining
documents internationally. It is not uncommon to wait six or more
months to obtain documents from many countries - like the former
Soviet Union eastern block. Fraudulent documentation is not uncommon
and this requires CGFNS to obtain documents from the primary source.
If you have Nigerian applicants who say that they are licensed
practical nurses, there is no such program in Nigeria. There has
been a recent spat of bogus Caribbean schools issuing licensed
practical nurse documents. St. Regis University and Concordia
College & University have been linked to a diploma mill. Note that
there is a real Regis University and there is a real Concordia
College.
Maine previously has accepted the Canadian license for endorsement.
As of December, 2006 they will no longer accept the Canadian
license. As of January 1, 2006 North Carolina stopped accepting the
Canadian license.
The CGFNS website provides a grid with average timelines for
document retrieval by country.
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